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Six Degrees of Separation




Posted 12 November 2008 20:34

set_zero:  What is the mathematical memory for the sixth degree equaling the separation of the foot print for this earth.

Anotherwards, does anyone know exactly what this means or have an opinion as to its understanding?

Posted 12 November 2008 21:33

blue eclipse:  The six degrees of separation refers to a state of mathematics that tries to put a pattern to the likeliness of people being linked together only separated by knowing or being acquainted with one particular person on the planet with at least six people between person 1 and person 7. 

There are conflicting theories about the validity of this attempt to find a pattern, some refute the likely hood that only six people separate you from any other person... but strangely enough it only takes one or two people to make a link to someone else on the planet. It's been my experience that you just never know who the people you know might know. It's a Wild World ain't it?

 Posted 12 November 2008 21:58

jeronncase:  Someone tried this before and it didn't fare too well.....hopefully this time it'll get more response.


Posted 13 November 2008 01:49

set_zero:  Does anyone believe that this may be connected to;

Deja Vu..............................


if so...................................

if not..................................

for added thought, are there opinions on either one of these subjects?

Posted 13 November 2008 02:16

Faith70: Aside from being a mathematical theory, how is it possible to accurately test this?
Maybe if we took a sample of the human population worldwide, and from the moment of birth every person that the child is/was acquainted with is recorded. Then, say by age 30 the database of names is compared to the other people in the sample...I dunno...that's not going to work either!
Obviously I'm a girl who likes scientific evidence.
It's like the question posed several months back on a thread (I think it was about 'regret'). It questioned whether you would be the same person if you went back and changed some situations because you felt 'regret' about it.
Some said 'definitely not because the sum of all your actions and experiences makes you who you are today, and if those experiences were different, then you would be too" (i agree) and some said "yes you could possibly be exactly the same and in the same circumstance because who's to say that fate wouldn't bring you to the same place' (i agree)
I guess my point is...how can any of these theories be tested?
I love the concept there being 6 degrees of separation, and that there is no such thing as a coincidence, but...I wish we could prove it!
The idea of being connected to everyone else on the planet gives me warm fuzzies...actually that could be from lack of sleep (I thought there was a spider on my arm earlier. DELUSIONAL!)
Here's another conundrum...(excuse spelling..to tired to care)...
Is there any such thing as mental telepathy?
I'd normally be skeptical but I keep having these strange experiences with it.
My newborn son (now 10 ish weeks old) wakes when I start to think of him at night when I'm between being awake and asleep.
It happened with my daughter too when she was born (not anymore). 
In hospital, I'd wake and my milk would let down but he was in the 'special care nursery' (nowhere near). I'd be annoyed with myself for waking up for no good reason when I needed rest. Next thing I knew, my baby would be brought in to me for a feed! It happened over and over and still does. WHAT THA?

Posted 13 November 2008 02:26

blue eclipse:  I don't think it's possible to rule out precognition or telepathy. As for the regrets issue- there is something to be said for your experiences becoming the sum of your personality to a certain extent- but I can honestly say there are certain experiences I could have done with out and been all the better for it. There are some things that happen I think because they were 'destined' to occur. Others are produced from a long line of random coincidence. But there is that variable that no one ever accounts for- free will and choice. Do we ever truly have the control to make a 'choice' contradictory to what may have been intended otherwise?

Posted 13 November 2008 18:08


Ever heard of 

Cognitive Activism: New Way of Knowing

I saw this on CL (craigslist) in SF Bay Area under Groups, posted after this thread was started.

so is this coincidence? or not? and in addition to that what is it exactly?


Posted 13 November 2008 18:28

blue eclipse:  i am going to extend this hypothesis- by asking these questions:

IF you rely on intuition to guide your everyday decisions and rarely depend heavily on 'logic and rationalization " are you depending on the powers that be- 'god' - the inner 'guide(9)' that leads you to fulfill your 'destiny'? 

Are you countering the guiding predestined path you are intended to follow when you use pure logic and "rationalize' your choices by discounting the 'spiritual" aspects that would lead your life in a direction that does both you and all of humanity less harm and possibly enables you to be the 'vessel' that 'god' would use to counter act the evil that other people let loose on the world when they use excuses to rationalism their choices for denying personal and spiritual responsibility for their actions and choices?

Posted 13 November 2008 18:48

set_zero:  Intuition means;

1. direct perception of truth, fact, etc., independent of any reasoning process; immediate apprehension. 
2. a fact, truth, etc., perceived in this way. 
3. a keen and quick insight. 
4. the quality or ability of having such direct perception or quick insight. 
5. Philosophy. a. an immediate cognition of an object not inferred or determined by a previous cognition of the same object. 
b. any object or truth so discerned. 
c. pure, untaught, noninferential knowledge. 

Logic means;

1. the science that investigates the principles governing correct or reliable inference. 
2. a particular method of reasoning or argumentation: We were unable to follow his logic. 
3. the system or principles of reasoning applicable to any branch of knowledge or study. 
4. reason or sound judgment, as in utterances or actions: There wasn't much logic in her move. 
5. convincing forcefulness; inexorable truth or persuasiveness: the irresistible logic of the facts. 
6. Computers. logic circuit. 

Rationalisation means;

1. (psychiatry) a defense mechanism by which your true motivation is concealed by explaining your actions and feelings in a way that is not threatening [syn: rationalization] 
2. the cognitive process of making something seem consistent with or based on reason [syn: rationalization] 
3. (mathematics) the simplification of an expression or equation by eliminating radicals without changing the value of the expression or the roots of the equation [syn: rationalization] 
4. the organization of a business according to scientific principles of management in order to increase efficiency [syn: rationalization] 
5. systematic organization; the act of organizing something according to a system or a rationale [syn: systematization 

Power means;

1. ability to do or act; capability of doing or accomplishing something. 
2. political or national strength: the balance of power in Europe. 
3. great or marked ability to do or act; strength; might; force. 
4. the possession of control or command over others; authority; ascendancy: power over men's minds. 
5. political ascendancy or control in the government of a country, state, etc.: They attained power by overthrowing the legal government. 
6. legal ability, capacity, or authority: the power of attorney. 
7. delegated authority; authority granted to a person or persons in a particular office or capacity: the powers of the president. 
8. a document or written statement conferring legal authority. 
9. a person or thing that possesses or exercises authority or influence. 
10. a state or nation having international authority or influence: The great powers held an international conference. 
11. a military or naval force: The Spanish Armada was a mighty power. 
12. Often, powers. a deity; divinity: the heavenly powers. 
13. powers, Theology. an order of angels. Compare angel (def. 1). 
14. Dialect. a large number or amount: There's a power of good eatin' at the church social. 
15. Physics. a. work done or energy transferred per unit of time. Symbol: P 
b. the time rate of doing work. 

16. mechanical energy as distinguished from hand labor: a loom driven by power. 
17. a particular form of mechanical or physical energy: hydroelectric power. 
18. energy, force, or momentum: The door slammed shut, seemingly under its own power. 
19. Mathematics. a. the product obtained by multiplying a quantity by itself one or more times: The third power of 2 is 8. 
b. (of a number x) a number whose logarithm is a times the logarithm of x (and is called the ath power of x). Symbolically, y =xa is a number that satisfies the equation log y = a log x. 
c. the exponent of an expression, as a in xa. 
d. cardinal number (def. 2). 

Destiny means;

1. something that is to happen or has happened to a particular person or thing; lot or fortune. 
2. the predetermined, usually inevitable or irresistible, course of events. 
3. the power or agency that determines the course of events. 
4. (initial capital letter) this power personified or represented as a goddess. 
5. the Destinies, the Fates. 

Then the answer must be Yes for Me, I chose to counter the predestined path that any other intended for this one to follow, for zero means this and this is me;

1. the figure or symbol 0, which in the Arabic notation for numbers stands for the absence of quantity; cipher. 
2. the origin of any kind of measurement; line or point from which all divisions of a scale, as a thermometer, are measured in either a positive or a negative direction. 
3. a mathematical value intermediate between positive and negative values. 
4. naught; nothing. 
5. the lowest point or degree. 
6. Linguistics. the absence of a linguistic element, as a phoneme or morpheme, in a position in which one previously existed or might by analogy be expected to exist, often represented by the symbol 0̷: Inflectional endings were reduced to zero. The alternate of the plural morpheme in “sheep” is zero. 
7. Ordnance. a sight setting for both elevation and windage on any particular range causing a projectile to strike the center of the target on a normal day, under favorable light conditions, with no wind blowing. 
8. Mathematics. a. the identity element of a group in which the operation is addition. 
b. (of a function, esp. of a function of a complex variable) a point at which a given function, usually a function of a complex variable, has the value zero; a root. 

Now, either I have the queerest sense of humor OR I am correct and funny and just like Mr. Blunt on the hunt for the LOVE of my life!! Just borrowing his site for a bit my friends, because I am a strange card, stuck in a deck of Aces and Jacks. Only one other person in or on this earth would like to Deal with me, (that is a pun). 

Poker anyone, bets are set at Zero.

Posted 13 November 2008 18:59

blue eclipse:  lol.. and that is laughter out of a keen sense of the absurdity of how rational and irrational can be the same thing.

-8 -7 -6 -5 -4 -3 -2 -1 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 

x= -8 
y= 8 

x+y = 0 


Posted 13 November 2008 19:05

blue eclipse:  and if you want to delve biologically... 

female- XX (gender sex)
male- XY (gender sex)


Posted 13 November 2008 21:26

set_zero:  Hey Blue,

Will you run the bets for me? Doubt there would be any takers though, most are to caught up in the dream of the unreal. I personally don't think that American T.V. could compare with a trist like this one, so we can do it for the real, in REAL. 

Here and now, we could prove 6 degrees of separation, how? By clocking from the first bet forward. I may be only a shallow test but it would prove all the above one way or another. What do you think? 

By the way, I could feel you laugh at what I wrote and it felt good from here!! I went through a lot of posts on here from you, and I will tell you this, you have something to say and in accordance to the rules and regulations of John Mayer, he says, "Say what you want to say" and you do, don't apologize ever again. 

Sixth degree my dear, hit me back!! 

Trist means;


Trist\, n. [See Tryst.]

1. Trust. [Obs.] 

2. A post, or station, in hunting. [Obs.] --Chaucer. 

3. A secret meeting, or the place of such meeting; a tryst. See Tryst. [Obs.] 

George Douglas caused a trist to be set between him and the cardinal and four lords; at the which trist he and the cardinal agreed finally. --Letter dated Sept., 1543.

Zero, to the 5th Dimension., 2008/11/13

Posted 13 November 2008 22:02

blue eclipse:  HMM 


numerically 1+5+4+3= 13

1+3= 4

the name of an album by a rock n roll group called "Foreigner' 

four= the number phonetically in Chinese apparently sounds like the word death

Am I playing with a full deck yet? 

You need five cards to play a hand of poker. .. i think Five Card Stud may be just one of the variations. 

A Cardinal of a Christian faith? protestant, catholic or 'other'?

Posted 13 November 2008 22:14

set_zero:  Using Blue's Theory, which in advance I absolutely bet all, we have a 5th card.


numerically 2+0+0+8= 10


Is that a full enough deck? Coincidence? or what? definitely an "other"!

Posted 13 November 2008 22:30

blue eclipse:  interesting

I did not really think about the numerical implications of 2008. or maybe i did but just didn't make the connection consciously. 

today is a 11,13, 2008 day.

1+1+1+3+2+8= 16

1+6= 7

7Even Year Itch- Collective Soul sort of day perhaps? "She Said" 

7 7 7 7

Posted 13 November 2008 22:38

wkdnic:  Was it that night in the Carnival hall at Crompton when the two three degrees tribute acts had a mega scrap and never talkwd to each other again?

read more at http::://http://jamesblunt-s.warnerartists.com/forum/Topic92532-12-1.aspx

What Was Outback That Was Dusty And Exposed To The Weather That I Do Not Know Where It Went As I Cannot Find That Now On The Google Search. It Is An Old Whale That I Used To Love To Go And Check To See How On Earth That Whale Was In The Midst Of The Academy Of Sciences Yet I Rode MY Blue Schwinn Right Up To See It Personally. Where Did You Put It After You Remodeled The Academy of Sciences, And by the way, you did a terrible job on that remodel, you ruined the entire museum, its completely stupid to even visit. So should you go to San Francisco don't bother spending your money on the DeYoung or the Academy of Sciences but definitely go to the Japanese Tea garden as that at least is exactly as it was, totally cool.

Shingles is not Popcorn on the old Bell System is that Wow,
does the paint of green to say that what is done happened how the afternoon of long ago,
815 Address I know was the House of whom to Show a me not you as I am here and that makes this a bench of toe:  I came to say hello and ask if I could look a bout??,

I said hello I did live here when I was just a kid??,

I rang the doorbell and you said what is your name its in your Fed??,

The door is where upon the bricks up the hill pink house or sill,
that garage so steep its strange,
the doors open like the back door cheered,
and at that fun to walk around I said nothing you stood proud,
not that path of what is that,
how did you know that door had found,
a three inch neigh.ole to just be that match to what next door did bean,
the drive across the driveway not for the garden is a taught??,
it is the fact that garden had a Plum Tree with a special taste,
as that door on each a said what is the 22nd bed??,
a sister in law or brought by Pine how is the ever in eye deed??,
recognition quick as read grumpy gooft with cat at Tau!!

Now that Cat is Wares,
does the car park slant Astaire??

Fred did say my nickname first,
what is the name of Billy's get??

Tried and True or Compass find how does Science Fee^old Braid,
is that apartment building there to just be what the bank of lair,
round to what is on the siding yet on the inside it spares like pumpkin`d??,
who would know garage door Parked the cars inside yet where is the states of mail on the boxing dazed??.

Safeway Plaza is not Masonic how did UCSF know that Temples Hill for Nan^duh its a Tunk,
than to what Rossi Pool where is that Grove width strange Church of Hoo??

On fine be that biggest Sail,
cart to carriage alley straight,
a fence to spoke backdoor of less rise the pen at 811 trust,
for on the speak of in-law homes,
there are you who's that ever stay to be the strangest traveling tune,
yet what of what is what to what should Mary Malcolm know Uncle Russ in Texas as the photograph??

Climb the tithe or offering,
what is the title of get a bass,
trout to Bahamas Harbor Island??

Than what is the Water with the Rein??

Uncle Sam and never drained,
for is the A-Frame in the woulds of describe of Joplins stood,
why is the from to now I found that home for sale and asked that Man,
is Mill Valley sweeping under stride for training I with lies and stocked??

Then Lucky Drive did have a Truth that Bill sighed Maher or Graham??

Real Time

The Umpqua River At the Forks Is A Day That Made Sheila Wonder Why, Forever?? Well This Is 9/20/2015 @6:15 AM & However Is Not Today, However It Is Today And I Will Say That Selmar And I Would Swim On The Dare And Sheila Kept That Secret, Or Did She??

Should memory Park at the picnic be truth,
did what why when or become the steady be should,
church camp frustrate and that waltz to the compass,
what is the flatware as the tables be pleasant??

Silverware is the Louisa be Minot,
as the Moseley said Rodgers than Wares got a bay,
Papa and Nana my Grandparents its true,
however Mr. White said that Mrs White was the only be prove??

Wells are so deep that comfort is love,
than Michelle is just Westinghouse to the where house of subbed,
as that is a parts shop that once had a counter,
what happened to those Men that Gordon loved long??

Glowa Garage across from the Post,
an office to see that Jeffrey did lead,
how is the ever with the missed by a deed,
a Fast Car or the Cricket that makes Baseball the Thugged??

Campho Phenique is not the Soap 'poison oak' as Nana had Naphtha and its often a groat,
as what is the dial but the balance of coat,
Fell's what to the word that its harsh,
 bitter to whom would be Toads of the two-thousand year old term so easily read; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naphtha........

as a good scrub to picking those blackberries I learned about 'Canning' and 'Wax' for the turned??

Than what is 'Jarring' is the reality of wisdom as old timey shelves that stock memory unwind,

it gave rise to knowing that time is not not a blur to the grandfather clause,
for I was with Papa on days that a Cadillac made grace a fact and rivers just Cern,
now what is 'pickling' while people just spurn??



From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

French travelling set of cutlery, 1550–1600, Victoria and Albert Museum
Cutlery includes any hand implement used in preparing, serving, and especially eating food in the Western world. A person who makes or sells cutlery is called a cutler. The city of Sheffield in England has been famous for the production of cutlery since the 17th century and a train – the Master Cutler – running from Sheffield to London was named after the industry.[1]
Cutlery is more usually known as silverware or flatware in the United States, where cutlery usually means knives and related cutting instruments. Although the term silverware is used irrespective of the material composition of the utensils, the term tableware has come into use to avoid the implication that they are made of silver.
The major items of cutlery in the Western world are the knifefork and spoon. In recent times, hybrid versions of cutlery have been made combining the functionality of different eating implements, including the spork (spoon / fork), spife (spoon / knife), and knork (knife / fork) or the sporf which combines all three.


Silver forks and a spoon
The word cutler derives from the Middle English word 'cuteler' and this in turn derives from Old French 'coutelier' which comes from 'coutel'; meaning knife (modern French: couteau).[2]
The first documented use of the term "cutler" in Sheffield appeared in a 1297 tax return. A Sheffield knife was listed in the King's possession in theTower of London fifty years later. Several knives dating from the 14th century are on display at the Cutlers' Hall in Sheffield.[2]


Sterling silver is the traditional material from which good quality cutlery is made (hence the usage of the term in the United States). Sets of such cutlery are a valuable component of household silver and are stored and maintained carefully. Whole sets are created, sometimes specifically for wealthy clients, containing a range of specialised dining implements, such as the comprehensive set in sterling silver made for the French aristocrat Marie-Joseph Paul Yves Roch Gilbert du Motier (known as the Marquis de Lafayette) by the Towle Manufacturing Company. It contained, among many other items, a gravy ladle, mustard spoon and lettuce fork.[3]

Starch-polyester disposable cutlery
Steel was always used for more utilitarian knives, and pewter was used for some cheaper items, especially spoons. From the nineteenth century,electroplated nickel silver (EPNS) was used as a cheaper substitute; nowadays, most cutlery, including quality designs, is made fromstainless steel. Another alternative is melchior, a nickel and copper alloy, which can also sometimes contain manganese. It also contains elements of magnesium and copper sulphate.
Plastic cutlery is made for disposable use, and is frequently used outdoors for campingexcursions, and barbecues for instance. Plastic cutlery is also commonly used at fast-food or take-away outlets and provided with airline meals in economy class. Wooden disposable cutlery is also available as a biodegradable alternative.

The industry[edit]

Cutlery has been made in many places. In Britain, the industry became concentrated by the late 16th century in and around Birminghamand Sheffield. However, the Birmingham industry increasingly concentrated on swords, made by "long cutlers", and on other edged tools, whereas the Sheffield industry concentrated on knives.
At Sheffield the trade of cutler became divided, with allied trades such as razormakerawlbladesmithshearsmith and forkmaker emerging and becoming distinct trades by the 18th century.
Before the mid 19th century when cheap mild steel became available due to new methods of steelmaking, knives (and other edged tools) were made by welding a strip of steelon to the piece of iron that was to be formed into a knife, or sandwiching a strip of steel between two pieces of iron. This was done because steel was then a much more expensive commodity than iron. Modern blades are sometimes laminated, but for a different reason. Since the hardest steel is brittle, a layer of hard steel may be laid between two layers of a milder, less brittle steel, for a blade that keeps a sharp edge well, and is less likely to break in service.
After fabrication, the knife had to be sharpened, originally on a grindstone, but from the late medieval period in a blade mill or (as they were known in the Sheffield region) a cutlers wheel.

Disposable cutlery[edit]

Introduced for convenience purposes (lightweight, no cleanup after the meal required), disposable cutlery made of plastic has become a huge worldwide market. Along with otherdisposable tableware (paper plates, plastic table covers, disposable cupspaper napkins, etc.), these products have become essential for the fast food and catering industry. The products are emblematic of throw-away societies and the cause of millions of tons of non-biodegradable plastic waste.